Thanks again. Would the recruitor consider compensation for an applicant's senority loss by leaving the previous employer -- such as vacation and pension, etc.?
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-19(#6236309@0)
Thank you so much! BTW, I don't see any reason for you to even worry about your own career prospects -- you are clearly an asset to your employer, or any employer. Don't go down the HRIS techie way -- it'd be a big waste of talent. :-)
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-19(#6236407@0)
Thank you for your compliments and suggestions. I was confident in myself but kindly of feeling lost these days.
-congma(puzzle);
2010-8-19(#6236426@0)
usually when you are hired outside of gov, you'll get 1, even you can argue, 4 or 5 is almost impossible.
-ebusiness(宝宝,姐姐,爸爸,妈妈);
2010-8-20(#6237344@0)
我最烦的就是那些我一开始就报上expectation，而且说是bottom line。对方一副很理解的样子，interview了n round，最后给了我个数目低于expectation。我碰到过2次了，我拂袖而去：you are wasting my time。这帮hr什么心态？！
-wolf888(wolf888);
2010-8-20(#6237555@0)
呵呵，理解你的感受，这两天我正在看车，你看她像不像卖车的？我说X是我的底线，她说你来谈谈吧谈谈吧。然后谈。X+3? X+2? X+1? 到了她也没能给我X，不过是她太想买车给我了，不会放弃这1%的机会。既然我也知道她可能还去了，也是抱有1%的希望。所以啦，it's just how business runs.
Last time I was a waiter, I hopped three restaurants in a month.:-) There you go.
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-22(#6240295@0)
强词夺理加狡辩。We are talking about professional jobs here. Plus I mentioned "许多雇主" not all of them. Even in the fast-food business employers would not like to hire hoppers as FT Perm employees.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-8-22(#6240716@0)
呵呵，看出来了，你就是来捣乱的 -congma(puzzle); 8.20 22:29 (#6238685@0) :-)What kind of examples -- and how many of them -- are you expected to be able to over turn your "许多雇主" stipulation? :-)
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-22{124}(#6240774@0)
Give me an example that anyone you know has got 6 FT Perm jobs in any of the major banks or tier-one companies.No speculation or stipulation but stats, reality and my 30+yrs experience including 20+yrs in this part of the world.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-8-23{117}(#6240942@0)
Wow, 30+yrs experience --"Oracle of Bay Street"? I didn't know kindergarten experience also counts. :-)I said it varies *from sector to sector* -- but now you asked me to justify it to "big banks and tier-1 companies"?
BTW, those bulky/boring banks are not necessarily the best places to be. :-)
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-23{197}(#6241622@0)
rolia真正的精华贴! 不过俺和HR聊过如何说过去的工资,她说要如实说,很容易查出来.不过没说细节. 一般高说5-10%问题不大.另外,个人体会,和HR聊,用些HR术语,会有意想不到的效果,比如:internal equity issue(大家平均),/salary compression(工资差异)/ comp ratio over the midpoint(比平均高)?
-dreamwater(DyingEasy LivingHard);
2010-8-20{103}(#6238442@0)
Youmaybe wrong. You know that HR normally doesn’t really have much involvement in deterring contractors’ hourly rate, don't you? It often depends on the budget for a project and the hiring manager often has final say.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-8-20{217}(#6238698@0)
I totally agree with you. It's all about the budget.
-congma(puzzle);
2010-8-20(#6238717@0)
Thanks again. I know it's usually a hiring manager decision based on budget -- but market plays a role as well. Do hiring mangers turn to HR for market info -- e.g. rate survey data for each type of positions -- as a range guideline in determine rates?
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-21(#6239009@0)
Only up to $100K -- for their life time (unless they move to other role)? All those "senior" software developers on this forum are going to be disapointed big time.:-)Didn't we hear that the Russian programmer charged with steeling Goldman Sachs source code were making some US$450K/yr?
-cca(不归的如来佛);
2010-8-26{120}(#6247409@0)
Nice article. Two comments: 1. while target bonus is important, make sure you ask average actual payout % in the past years so that you know if they actually pay and how much %. 2. many companies check your last salary through reference check.
-wanderaround(WANDERER);
2010-8-23(#6242182@0)
Re: Reference / Background Check: when a company is asked to confirm employment history, it typically answer two questions: 1. from when to when you worked there 2. your last salary.
-wanderaround(WANDERER);
2010-8-27(#6249014@0)
Re: Reference / Background Check: when a company is asked to confirm employment history, it typically answer two questions: 1. from when to when you worked there 2. your last salary
-wanderaround(WANDERER);
2010-8-28(#6249350@0)
Thanks for sharing!
-congma(puzzle);
2010-8-28(#6249998@0)
这个问题我看到你单独开了帖子问，别人的回答也很好。从无到有的编造是很危险的，你是否在工作状态这个很可能是会在背景调查的时候查的，不是太妥当。另外，我看到你在那个帖子里说你提供的数字x是bottom line,你期望的是y。我感觉这不太现实，你想啊，就像卖东西一样，你开价x，人家说太低了给你y吧，可能性太低了吧？除非你的价格太低了人家都不好意思take advantage of you了。
想问LZ个问题,在第一轮interview后,一般HR会知会下落选者吗,还是就给人凉在那.NND,刚完一家,公司也是世界级的,说early this week会通知,没收到就在星期三给她打.但打了留言后又不回复,算怎么回事!不行就说声,俺们也不是受不了打击的人,大不了在原来的窝上再呆着呗.
-laura999(Laura);
2010-8-26(#6247302@0)