They are all craps, that's why I don't feel like buying new cars. I always perfer used car, which I can dump it anytime I feel bored, or when it got scratched, I don't feel that bad...
-collapsar(笨笨和旦旦);
2002-12-11(#907440@0)
try to find a lawyer. i am pretty sure u can get all money back plus compensation.
-zippo(子胖 止胖);
2002-12-11(#907450@0)
my thought
-mssg(mssg);
2002-12-11{158}(#907451@0)
More information =>
-mssg(mssg);
2002-12-11(#907459@0)
thanks! i will try
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12(#908886@0)
1,2,31) Have you signed that document with “absolve any further claim” or not? Nobody can force you to sign anything. Hopefully you have not signed.
2) It was the salesperson's fault no matter how many km you have driven.
3) You should ask for a full refund, because they did not give you the car you ordered.
4) Talk and write (fax) to the manager's boss.
5) Go to a court, you will win
6) Talk to chinese media (like newspaper). They are looking for this kind of story right now.
-dundas888(登达寺);
2002-12-11{485}(#907486@0)
thank you your suggestion. i contacted "world jounal" already. they are very concern about it and they will follow it.
and i didn't sign it because it's too unfair to me. rob money and also order me to shut up!
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12(#908870@0)
Is it the same "Johnny Lu" as this author?
-olivetree(Olive Tree);
2002-12-11(#907584@0)
yes, the same "FAMOUS" Johnny Lu.this story further confirmed me: NEVER trust Chinese (business) people
yes. the same guy. act and write manner is totally different. be careful!
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12(#908804@0)
中国人欺骗中国人 very bad
-gwh(ace);
2002-12-16(#917234@0)
one story in US...ive heard one story in US. one guy ordered a brand new bmw. but the thing is when a brand new bmw arrived the dealership, they repainted it because they found some scratch in the body. the dealer give that guy this one without noticed the change. u know what happened in court? that guy got a brand new bmw plus 3 MILLION dollars...
-zippo(子胖 止胖);
2002-12-11{332}(#907612@0)
the point is, the coustomer was a BMW user. he had enough money and
time to sue the deal with his 'professional' lawyer. now how about out this
brother?
-fxid(外地民工模样的人);
2002-12-11(#907643@0)
the reason that guy sued the dealership is because he want more compensation...but for our brother, all he want is just a full refund, isnt it? with all documents on hand, this case is a definite-win case. just consult with the lawyer. not all lawsuit spend lots of money and time...
-zippo(子胖 止胖);
2002-12-11{204}(#907682@0)
i hope so. he should punch the bad dealer.
-fxid(外地民工模样的人);
2002-12-11(#907686@0)
since there's a good example ahead, why not ask help from 'professional' lawyer and ask for more compensation instead of just a refund.
-glover(noname);
2002-12-11(#908166@0)
and it doesn't hurt TRYING to be a millionaire too ;p
-glover(noname);
2002-12-11(#908202@0)
I bought it new car in TOYOTA ON FRONT in July 2002 at a lower price than that offered by other TOYOTO dealers.And I felt the service Jonny Lu offered was not bad. I consulted with him on Nov about the new car rust protection and got his response that it is unnessary. So I can identify this guy is not bad businessman.
But he is only the salesperson. Maybe your case is out of his control. Try to contact him in person when he is off work.
Meanwhile, you can contact TOYOTO head office in Canada to lodge your claim. I remember their headquater is located in Scarborough. You'd better go there in person.
-liboby(三皮);
2002-12-11{502}(#907694@0)
can't agree with you. you experience only means first impression is VERY important. but from this other side, we know the REAL Johnny Lu. it's nothing to do with busyness, it's about Lu's credit.
-glover(noname);
2002-12-11(#908183@0)
and yes, the Hongkongnese salesperson is worse than LU
-glover(noname);
2002-12-11(#908191@0)
i had the same impression about johnny lu as you when i ordered that car. but what happened later is so disappointed. you can't believe his behavior. he did know everything but cheated on me! that's the true johnny lu!
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12(#908841@0)
it's right under control by johnny lu. because the previous customer bought it from johnny too not the other sales. he know everything from the very beginning.
as for the priceas for the price, i said it's normal because i got the same price in Dixie toyota. i bought it first from toyota on front just because i live in downtown. it's the closest one to me.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12{184}(#909089@0)
i understand what you think. i had the same impression as you since i read his article before and talked him once. right now is not i give him a chance. my situation is really much worse than him. i am pretty pitiful!i told the manager: i can pay the money $1785.95 for using 268km but i MUST reserve the right to further claim on them. they rejected. they said the price can be negociated but won't less than $1000, but i have to "absolve any further claims toward toyota on front"! it's going too far! they rob me money and force me to shut up! it's going too far! i can tell you that day when i talked with the manager johnny was first motionless at last laughing. please judge for me. please do fair on me!
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12{498}(#909748@0)
i'm not critical. i just described all the facts and what i thought. i wish to solve the problem as soon as possible. that's why i said i accept the charge even i am not wrong at all. but they didn't give me a chance.you know why? because they hold the money. they don't care my situation. they exposed 真实一面 . for you, you are the buyer, of course they do kind to you. for us, before we found the facts from the statement, i thought he was kind too. i believe if the same case happen to you, you will suffer the same as like me. that's what my 体会now.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12{341}(#909822@0)
My suggestions.
-huimin(huimin);
2002-12-12{1117}(#910158@0)
i am doing all i can do these days, such as contact the "world journal" , get suggestion from lawyer, fax to the goverment office which related to solve the problem. so far, no confirm answer yet.as to got to the court, that will be my last choice if everything fall through.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12{79}(#910303@0)
City TV has an reporter named Silverman. He may help you. Let the dealership know first that you will talk to medium, and see the response from them. Talk to a English medium (like Star, City TV etc).
-huimin(huimin);
2002-12-12(#910555@0)
i got city tv fax number. i will fax it first.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12(#910876@0)
the guy is pretty busy. it will take long time to processing. :(
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-15(#915313@0)
what i want is full aomout back. i am tired already. if i can't get full back, i will try all ways to claim it. including have a lawyer go to court even maybe it's not worth. (the lawyer fee is pretty high) hopeeverything can getting better. thank you for your concern. thank you every reader.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-12{82}(#910536@0)
yesterday i got the credit card billand found "toyota on front" took me $500 deposit the day i signed the contract. but the day when i picked up the car, they said they didn't take the deposit, so that day i paid the full amount. it's trap everywhere in that dealer shop. so terrible! the problem haven't solved, the new problem coming.
-blackeyeblacksky(bei);
2002-12-18{305}(#923004@0)