Roles/responsibilities of an architect is quite different from a PM’s. Depending on where you are based consulting is not a must for an architect. There are also huge differences between an solutions architect and an enterprise architect.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-6-27(#6148833@0)
咱不钻牛角尖，会什么和干什么是不同的。PM和architect should be best friend.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148845@0)
Roles of an architect at IBM is very different from many others' perhaps. Very often roles of a position are very clearly defined in large companies. One is not supposed to or try to go over the line or conflicts start.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-6-27(#6148894@0)
actually i am following the definition from open group.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148909@0)
You may have to bear responsibilities of a PM as an architect working for a consulting firm managing budget and other resouces etc. but you don’t need to if you work at e.g. at RBC.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-6-27(#6148923@0)
Good thinking.. but will that architect (at RBC) care about mile stones, time lines, resources, critical success factors, risks ? I will say PM and architect share a common set of objectives and responsibilities in many cases.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148933@0)
Yes but without compromising a PM’s responsibilities /mandates working on a team.
-thornthorn(Holy Moly);
2010-6-27(#6148945@0)
Absolutely. That's why they should be best friend.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148949@0)
老猫说的有理，但是跟俺说的不相关。俺谈的不是要做architect还是做specialist。俺是给average joe programmer写的。
-wincity(toad 会英文的红卫兵);
2010-6-27(#6148846@0)
Exactly. They should have different focus in a project. Architect’s main responsibility is the big picture, not how to do a specific job. Specialist should care about get the job done and meet the requirements.Of course, this doesn’t mean architect shouldn’t do ANY low level works and specialist should ignore the big picture completely. There’s no clear cut for this. In fact, in the programming world, most architects evolved from developers. And developers must have some basic architect skills. But these two types of people shouldn't cross the line too often.
Specialist is Darth Vader, Architech is Darth Sidious.
-coolmao(酷猫*Zensunni);
2010-6-27{419}(#6148871@0)
"Specialist is Darth Vader, Architect is Darth Sidious" - LOL...better said than all the words in my post
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27{41}(#6148900@0)
job title could be different from company to company. having said that, an architect should perform some consulting functions and understand consulting methodology. i see nothing wrong to be interviewed by consultant.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148916@0)
I'm referring to IBM here
-coopers(Coopers);
2010-6-27(#6148919@0)
apart from the talks of career path, at the end of the day, money talks. As long as the position satisfied both parties' desire and need, it is just business as usual. I've seen many people being both "managing consultant" and "certified architect"
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6148927@0)
请教一下猫哥,在IBM,Principal Consultant和Architect谁的Band高些? 谢谢先, 因为俺想直接给那位经理回一封Follow up email, 探听一下那个面试人究竟给出什么原因
-coopers(Coopers);
2010-6-27(#6148997@0)
architect has 4 bands - associate architect 7, advisory 8, senior 9, executive 10... I guess the position you are talking about is either 8 or 9. principal consultant ? hmm.. I am not sure..
-mikesmith(老猫);
2010-6-27(#6149034@0)
Thank you so much, 猫哥
-coopers(Coopers);
2010-6-27(#6149072@0)
I'm also have a question. Would you guys give us something you are proud of in your work? Like you resolved some problem by some way etc?
-oscargee(oscargee);
2010-6-27(#6149142@0)
"I’m a principal consultant with ThoughtWorks..."
-iron(swim, bike & run);
2010-6-27(#6149700@0)
Principal Consultant 是个level上的衡量，Consultant I < Consultant II < Sr. Consultant < Principal Consultant. 有的公司Principal Consultant相当于Group Manager
-sky2005(Fenix);
2010-6-29(#6152421@0)