最近我一直在想这个问题，你说出了我的心声。。。放眼一望，周围的super star一定是热衷于帮助别人的人。其实工作就是两件事，get the job done，help people get the job done，两件事一样重要，缺一不可
-arcong(阿莲);
2009-11-19(#5692089@0)
well said
-kk1997(咱有能力创造幸福);
2009-11-20(#5693176@0)
do you a favor by bumping it.
-reed(芦苇);
2009-11-19(#5692028@0)
thanks!
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-19(#5692032@0)
YGPM
-reed(芦苇);
2009-11-19(#5692098@0)
Wa! Jusus in work.
-firetrain(火车头);
2009-11-19(#5692051@0)
是这个理儿。土话说的好，人人为我，我为人人。洋话说得更好：Treat Others As You Want To Be Treated，主语是Treat Others在先，不像土话人人为我在先 。。。
-noproblem(密西洒家。o O);
2009-11-19(#5692080@0)
Very well said. Following your ideas, I created a LinkedIn group for those IT professionals on Rolia. Everybody is welcome to join, to expand your connections and networking:
-sailor(Mountains&Ocean);
2009-11-19(#5692273@0)
great. just joined
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-19(#5692295@0)
I also created a more generic LinkedIn group, called "Professionals on Rolia":
-sailor(Mountains&Ocean);
2009-11-19(#5692276@0)
Overall you are right because most of people are nice and reasonable. That's why "你帮我，我帮你”could become true. However, when you extend your hands to help others, don't expect that you'll get return.A simple question but no offence - "Are you saying you only want to help those who can help you later on? "
-rolialover(小快);
2009-11-19{109}(#5692460@0)
There are 3 drivers for one's behavour 1) a sense of power 2) a sense of accomplishment 3) a sense of relationship.The main driver for me is the 3rd one. I don't care too much about the vision or the company or the money or the postion. But I do care about people. If I feel saying no is to help him, I'd do so without a question, even in the expense of my own benefit. If I feel saying no is to help myself and hurt the other guy, I probbaly won't. The RIGHT thing does not mean a thing to me. Making people happy is my ultimate goal.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-19{425}(#5692668@0)
Mine is satisfaction! I can stay at middle management and earned 6 digit salary but I didn't feel any achievement. I like to work with small business owener rather than big enterprise. I have immediate satisfaction when I sovled their problems.With big enterprise, even the business owner loves my idea; I may have to wait another 6 months and kill half a dozen architects or VPs.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-19{136}(#5692688@0)
My proposal would never improve ROI at the expense of people. That one alone makes me look "weak" in the business world But I don't care. Job is important for each individual, business can wait.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-19(#5692711@0)
We have different priorities.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-19(#5692726@0)
we agree on the disagreement.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-19(#5692728@0)
I always like to work with people who disagree with me. They put money in my pocket!
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-19(#5692772@0)
To me, you're also a high "I" person who wants to make influence and focus on people relationship "helping people makes you feel happy". Just that you hate bureaucrats and you have a passion for life.
-rolialover(小快);
2009-11-20(#5693179@0)
A person with Big ego; Self-centered; see "Mental-Health Issues and Challenging
Clients in Executive Coaching"
-skitennis(tennisfan);
2009-11-22(#5697577@0)
I don't know much about this high "I" person, do you mind to send me more info. BTW, who would like bureaucrats ?
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-23(#5699657@0)
You're a typical "I" person who focus on "influence" and "people relationship" per DISC profile (a personality test tool)
-rolialover(小快);
2009-11-20(#5693170@0)
This also works for small business. I helped a lot of people without asking for return. But when I did stupid things on marketing. sales, or public speaking. A lot of people would offer thier help.And this theory works for all relationship which is like a saving account. When you help people, you deposit money to your saving account. When you need help; somehow someone would offer their help, you withdraw from your saving account.
I often suggest to Chinese immigrants to do volunteer works, you never know who is watching you.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-19{340}(#5692661@0)
网上空口无凭，因此我从不参与任何网上XB或PK，只用经历说事，本着低调做人，高调做事的原则。。。我不是反对在职场上do everybody a favor，只是认为一旦上到决策层，面对方方面面的无尽需求，手中的时间和资源变得有限，已经无法做到老猫所说的那些。在决策层无论是管理和权利角斗，更重要的是权衡利弊做出有利于现在和将来的选择，在正确的时间和正确的位置做对正确的事情。。。
-nodream(～～～);
2009-11-23{120}(#5699547@0)
It is called vision! And sometime you have to against all odds and do what you believe is right! If you always follow the mainstream, you would always be one of hudred or thousand.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-23(#5699662@0)
两位，doing a favor跟你有没有vision，会不会下决策没有必然的冲突。doing favor给别人多的人，他的决策往往被执行的更好。其实dominance型的个人能力都是比一般人强，但他们事业成功的几率并不比一般人高，缺少别人的支持是一个主要原因啊。想想为什么胡锦涛、习近平上位，而不是王兆国、李克强上位。
-hurrah(猫眼);
2009-11-23{38}(#5701128@0)
I think your point is exactly nodream's point. "doing favor是操作层面的" and "Vision是战略决策层面" So now we agree that there may not be always room to do a favor in "决策层面" .But most senior management understand this is the way to do business. My VP was very mad when he stepped out from the meeting room. But next morning, he called me into his office to start the new business plan.
I saw a lot of successful examples of dominance型的management. No body liked them except the CxO but CxO are the one who is going to promote them. But I saw a failed case that half of the AVP left in 6 months time and the CIOs decided to let him go is better than losing the other half of AVP.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-24{511}(#5702659@0)
There are a few basic qualities being a person, not only in work place, but in everyday life, including honesty, fairness, and integrity.Vision, decisiveness, pursuit of quality work, innovation are other qualities in the work place.
"doing a favor" does not have to over rule those basic qualities. .
I am not in favor of 1) power from an authority figure 2) voting. Gaining rough consensus is an art, and that should be the way to go to achieve technical excellency. I will write another article about it.
-mikesmith(老猫);
2009-11-24{379}(#5703840@0)
Look forward to your next article. I was not in favor of getting the VP to override his architects' decision. And I was fully aware of the consequence. But I had to follow my heart! Should I tell my users that they have to pay 5 times the cost?I couldn't justify the cost myself.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-24{36}(#5703860@0)
The topic is what is 工作. the author described his view of the relations between the Job, the motivation. So, What makes you proud of be 处在过决策层?
-skitennis(tennisfan);
2009-11-22(#5697796@0)
What is your 质疑? Let me share a story with you. I know a director who graduated from top 5 university in US. Our company has offices outside GTA. Eeverytime our VP has meeting in those office, he always scheduled meeting around similar timeso he could drive the VP back and forth.
He didn't smoke but everytime he saw our CIO smoking outside, he aslo ran out with his coffee mug.
Another VP's wife had a women night every Tuesday, he told the VP he loved baby and went to help the VP every Tuesday!
I don't know if there are other stories.
He was supposed to be our Notes domain expert but even my parttime Notes knowledge was better than him. But he was at all the high level management committes.
-hkchan(0);
2009-11-22{477}(#5697598@0)