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Thank you for your support.But they already said they had shown 30 perporty at the same time when I serviced my clients,and never knew that I already showed this perporty first.

yihan(mimi)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛But my clients told me on the phone they already visited this one with me ,even my name,but they said no problem,they still could buy with them.That is a big and stupid lie--If I sue them ,my lawyer will be very easy to get the proof to verify this story not be the truth unless the buyers will co-operate with them,that will be a big bad action in Canada--rude the loyalty to be witnessis not fact.,because all the brokers will keep all the showing record.It's eay to find a problem there.But the buyer couples' have their own problem about the mortgage issue.
actually they got that skillfully not by the right way.Even in this case they
did sth. really hurt me,but I still treat them as a kind of friends did sth. wrong just by misunderstanding leading.I do not like put them in trouble in the future.Actually I can not understand why they jumped me at the very end time.They told me because their landlord persuded their much to make them believe hey will have the best agent in the world.Actually
even after I--(myself) brought my own house thouh my agent,he also told me if I can introduce sb. to be his client,he will give me some "candys".That is a public secret.But unfortunately after I viewed the offer,they are not be protected by their new top #1 agents at all--the last one they missed is South exposure,this one is North,no sunshine in winter at all,and that basement is much bigger than this one,they wanted to build two rooms there,so this is important to them,and all the deco taste is lousier than the last one.The yard is also smaller and not beautiful like the last one.
And this one is power of sale,the bank does not warranty any chattles--like stove,ice-box ect. 's fate in the future.And the male buyer also complained they waivered all the conditions when they faxed the offer to sell's broker without telling him--including the mortgage and status certificate,that made them scared for a long time.Because they really have no good income at all,even the down-payment is out of Canada,how they sure they would get the mortgage
or not,if not, they would lose all the deposit.Other side,I always made 2-3 feed back offer for my client to get a better price,they really thank for my effort to save their money they already want to put in.But the difference
price room between south and north is just $2000,because they were persuded to take the sign-back offer right way!Nobody had bargained the price for them at all!That is power of sale,and not a multi-offer presetation ,is just 2 days in market ,less chance for other offer coming in. Maybe someone just perfer close their deal ASAP for themselve.sign...You know during the meeting ,they are so interesting,seems I need they teached me how to be a agent,how great legal system in Canada--can put me in Jail for my visit to his clients' home--ha!Actually the male one is just a year earlier than me in this company -and -I first read the book about real estate agent in USA when I was 18,I brought a house 2 years ago,I done a quite good number deals this year.I'm confident not worse than them,but really not "skillful" like them.Because two years ago economic situation is much better and property price is much lower,and no so many madanrin-speaking sales person.,also they work hard and more"skillful",give them
a good step to being a rich agent--I do not believe money can buy all the poeple,I can not take their $ 500 for their arrogant ,they said they have all the right to claim 100% commission,but for " humanism",they can give me this money for buying milk for my kids!--tThey are so nice--donate some milk to me!How do you react before such an interesting couple--even though the buyer couple's mouth --they get too much for just 2 time showing--one is making the offer,another is the last showing before closing.From the same kind of case,they should give back all the commission to me,and their licences will be suspended. for sure.I gave them a chance just claim 50% commission for the peace,after all I have
lot of things more healthy and fun to do than going to the court.But now where will go from here?First thing is I can not forgive their rude.They really kill my living's quality these days.When I attended the meeting,I still dreaming maybe we can be friends after I get back my part commission,
Now I totally know some kind of people can not be treated as your friends
for ever.They really make me mad!
Ok,this is a total story.I have been here for 2 years,most time just reading,because of my poor express ability,now I will be back,and let this talktive mouth close.I still perfer enjoy the good time in reality instead of the net.My husband is already very patient with me and always stands by me --crying and smiling,even he does not react like this ,he always prefers I can forget this caseASAP, be happy all the time.It's enough for all my life,right?I should go back to his style--be quiet and nice. Enjoy the life provide us the best gifts--I really can put time to study the stock to follow the nortel's luck,right?--Hope not kill your time and
make you feel boring.My english is more lousy ,right?Because I have to change a computer for my husband want to use anothe one to do his project.It is not a English Show--heihei!God bless you,good luck,everyone here!更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 工作学习 / 事业与工作 / 是不是没一个人都会在工作碰到这样的同胞？不屈从您有该如何处理?请给我答案，帮助我理性地解决这样的纷争。谢谢！ -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 {1701} (#893153@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛在昨天公司内部的PRE-ARBITRATION会议上，同公司的一对同事在很多地方你们能见到ADVERTISEMENT WITH PHOTO--TTC CHAIR和星岛日报上—自诩为NO。1 TOP AGENTS—（不要让我披露他们的名字，让上帝去验证我的话吧。但我要告诫大家买卖地产是个水很深的职业，不要轻易相信脸熟的人或是朋友介绍的AGENT就一定能保护你们的利益，因为这个行业REFERAL FEE 是合理存在的。）据传去年创收30万元的这样的大户居然在公司的会议上公然为了一个很小的标第--“在何时为第一时间见到我客户?”问题上公然对天撒谎，反过来我倒好象是POLICE将会调查的闯入民宅的罪犯—因为我们去"他们"的客户家拿到了保护我们利益的文------我们曾不分周末及夜晚抛下幼子与病迈的老妈在治安口碑相当不好的W5车接车送（from end of scar to york University）跟踪这对客户近一个月且为他们下过一个对后来买成的房子-同一地点的房成重要参考的OFFER，我们敲响的是是我在MLS上市第一天发现第2天SHOWING第4天被他们卖掉的房门，是女主人殷勤让我们进屋—并一再道歉。。。他们还提出出于人道主义捐给我300元做为对这个CASE的了结，后有涨到500，这种嗟来之食岂可接之？据说入行也不足几年同样来自大陆的他们在公司已经违反地产专业操守N次争抢客户，尤其是对讲国语的AGENTS，因为没有象这次一样证据充分，大家调庭不公后，或走或视他们为—而远之。我是以一种检验这个行业到底有没有一个可以寻求正义的体系，是否将这个行业作为我唯一的谋生手段，是否要在加拿大这样的环境下屈从地生活下去而放弃国内众多的商机，给自己一个说法。也想使出在国内考律师执照的知识对比此地法律体系进行对比，使我更清晰以后自己该走的路来对待这件事的。 令我感动的是涉及此案的NATIVE合作人员都愿意为我出证，真的，自己的同胞却是这样，在铁的证据下还在撒谎，难道非要在法庭上让曾是的客户与他们对证谁是LIAR，因为客户曾不止一次告诉我们是他们的女房东在我们SHOWING完房后"热情"推荐他们介入的，他们在完全知道我们的工作在前
    还要下山抢钱的！好让人对自己的某些同胞寒心啊！更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • up!是不是每一个人都会在工作碰到这样的同胞？若不屈从的话，您有该如何处理?请给我答案，帮助我理性地解决这样的纷争。谢谢！ -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 (#893197@0)
    • 一句话，想开一点； -d2o(怕就怕认真2字); 2002-12-4 {256} (#893217@0)
      首先，如果你们没有起码的“朋友”关系，他们谈不上要来照顾你，这种事情国内也不少；其次，客户也没有和你签代理协议，你自己也知道这意味这什么；另外，公平、正义，还是放到理想国去吧。最后建议，还是和top producer们维持过得去的关系，既然他们已经提出要“赔偿”你了。
      • 看来水是很深，看了这个，就更不明白怎么回事了，内行能不能稍微 给解释一下基本术语和事情来由。多谢。 -fxid(外地民工模样的人); 2002-12-4 (#893237@0)
    • 说实话，你的中文再通顺一点就更好了，读起来比较费劲。--抱歉，直说了。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893225@0)
      • 恩，同感，看了一半就放弃了:-( -why(蝶衣); 2002-12-4 (#893233@0)
      • me 2, 还是你够直爽 -zhihaoxx(热爱FB的LOSER 甲); 2002-12-4 (#893241@0)
      • 我的中文除了在北京5中被两位中文老师看好有写作潜力外，还真难遇知音。不过，可能真有一天不再闷着高中被老师鼓励以后的再接再厉坚持到现在的十几本诗歌，散文，札记，也常常被大家扔板砖的感觉。 -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 (#893281@0)
        • 抱歉，我连这一句都不大懂。您到底是出了“十几本诗歌，散文，札记”没？你的写法不会是意识流的吧？ -greatchina(2002); 2002-12-4 (#893288@0)
        • ?? 想起最近看的American Idol里的Simon的一段话：do you have a teacher? yes, her name is xxx. do you have a lawyer? No, I don't. Then find a lawyer, sue your teacher....:)) -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893289@0)
        • 要不是你标点符号位置不对，要不是咱的中文实在不好，看了你上面 的句子，还是不明白说的是什么？10几本东西是写了还是将要写？ -fxid(外地民工模样的人); 2002-12-4 (#893292@0)
        • 十分抱歉，但我还是没看懂:-( -why(蝶衣); 2002-12-4 (#893295@0)
          • 让我来猜猜这位大侠的意思：除了在北京5中被两位中文老师看好有写作潜力外，我的中文还真难遇知音。不过，可能真有一天不再闷着那十几本诗歌，散文，札记，那是从高中被老师鼓励以后坚持到现在的。拿出来也尝尝被大家扔板砖的感觉。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893305@0)
            • 如此看来，还真委屈了那10+本诗歌散文啥的 :-( -why(蝶衣); 2002-12-4 (#893322@0)
            • 这位同学理解的很好吗! -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 (#893839@0)
        • 北京五中的中文老师真乃高人也。其超世出俗不同一般可见一斑。您的诗歌散文估计也不是凡人能看得明白清楚懂的。仍板砖的人太粗糙糊涂没学问休养了，应当向您多学习教育领会培训呀。 -rollor(Rollor); 2002-12-4 (#893299@0)
          • 看看砖头来了不是，没事，还抗得住。不过我是不会在这里贴我的WRITING的，没有稿费--嘿嘿。。。 -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 (#893326@0)
        • 常常应尝尝，很多笔误是初做网虫，还不习惯。敬请原谅。我的走了，这个月还有3个DEALS等着CLOSING呢！人家信任咱，咱不能把事情办砸了，晚上见吧，谢谢大家的支持。 -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 (#893303@0)
          • 又读了几遍，明白了，10几本已经写了，佩服，不过做个好的AGENT 我看最主要的要有倾听的欲望，这个和写作不打嘎的。 -fxid(外地民工模样的人); 2002-12-4 (#893332@0)
        • 强烈同意ing....看到一半就已经累的....呼呼 -mikesxf(家里家外忙前忙后ing.); 2002-12-4 (#893385@0)
        • 打住，那位老师，何年何月批示？ -yong(yang); 2002-12-4 (#894759@0)
    • 能不能帮解答几个疑惑先？1。客户可以在同一时间找不同的AGENT看 不同的房吗？法律上有没有明确规定？2。客户可以随时中断原来的 AGENT的服务吗？谢谢 -fxid(外地民工模样的人); 2002-12-4 {130} (#893230@0)
      你说的纠纷，有没有相关的行业法律来处理，如果有，就应该按
      规矩办事，不论同胞与否；一个行业的规矩坏了，最后损失的是
      这个行业自己。
      • 1。可以。 2。可以。一般如果你决定下offer的时候，经纪会同时和你签下合同，约定这个房子90天内都要通过他来做。这里有个陷阱： -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 {194} (#893247@0)
        签这个合同的时候一定要看清楚。有的中介就顺水推舟，在合同写下90天内你看得所有房子都要通过他做。

        所以，看清楚，合同里要只包括目前这套房子的信息。当然，如果你愿意所有房子都通过他，自然没问题了。
        • 这个陷阱是比较大，是不是也包括别的AGENT带你看的房子，如果是 那样的话，对别的AGENT也不公平啊。还有，如果不是要下OFFER了 任何时候你都可以拒绝和AGENT签协议？ -fxid(外地民工模样的人); 2002-12-4 (#893250@0)
        • 秧子, 俺对你的江水如滔滔啊, 最近就想找个AGENT,正不知如何下手呢. -firefox(溜冰去); 2002-12-4 (#893263@0)
          • 你是下决心买了？有个大概主意了？好的经纪一般都有几个擅长的区域，你最好先定个大致范围。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893297@0)
            • 还没个准主意呢,准备趁圣诞节把几个朋友家的房子看看, 心里有个谱先. -firefox(溜冰去); 2002-12-4 (#893309@0)
        • 我的理解是: 1. 你可以找很多经纪帮你看房子, 并不违法, 但是如果你找的房子是固定在一个价位上或一个区域里, 有经验的经纪很容易就知道你在同时用好几个经纪. 因为大家用的系统是一样的, 除非那些还未上MLS的. 2. 可以, 但并不绝对. -ping(半拍斋主); 2002-12-4 {819} (#894732@0)
          这要看当时的情况. 即便是你并没有同经纪签任何买方代理合同, 如果事实上你已经在充分使用经纪的服务, 仍可视为一种代理关系. 在这种情况下, 其他经纪是不应该插手的, 即便是旁人主动介绍, 也不行, 不符合行规. 买方代理合同的本意, 并不是要给客户下套儿, 而是经纪在向你提供服务时, 向你明确代理关系的证明. 因为这里有一个CUSTOMER和CLIENT的区别. 如果你没有签代理合同, 也没有同经纪进行任何实质上的接触, (包括透露你的财务状况, 等等.) 你就是CUSTOMER, 经纪对你问的问题, 要诚实的回答, 但没有任何义务保护你的利益. 如果你是CLIENT, 那就不同了, 经纪有责任保护你在房屋买卖上的一切利益, 他不仅要回答你的问题, 甚至连你没看到的, 他也要为你想到. 这是他的责任.

          当然, 经纪的水平参差不齐, 选个好经纪很重要. YIHAN本身的经历, 我想她是限于行规, 不便在这里讲的太明了. 可以理解. 问题在於双方是同一个公司的, 若是不同公司的, 根本不用她讲, 她的公司就替她出头了.
      • 实在看不出，有啥必要同时要找几个不同的经纪看房？MLS里的LIST应该都是一样的。如果不喜欢一个经纪，就明说，换个经纪就完了。怎么也犯不着同时找几个啊？也许俺太笨，不懂。 -dundas888(登达寺); 2002-12-4 (#893337@0)
        • 有时候是很有必要的。比如你同时想在密市和richmond hill看房子，就应该找两个，因为“术业有专攻”。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893339@0)
          • 呵呵，原来还有这个说法。不过也说明你自己还没有想好，这样容易被影响。俺当年看房可是铁了心，指定了一个方框，只要看这里面的X卧室X洗手间XX万以下的XX房。：） -dundas888(登达寺); 2002-12-4 (#893360@0)
            • 这样不错。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#893366@0)
          • If you want to be a agent you have to always stand this kind of situation-free tour guide, -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 {242} (#894098@0)
            this time all agents will not wolcome this is4u foundationer's opion, you know I used to love IS4U,you answer me some
            questions when I was brand new here,still appreciate you ,do not be angry,please.But this view really hurt lot of agents.
            • 呵呵，这跟心意网有什么关系？我在地产方面的知识，大多数是从我的经纪处学来得。还有，你的帖子里说的不是很清楚呀。。。：） -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-12-4 (#894186@0)
    • 我们的同胞在哪里都很少见有正义感守规矩的, 什么时候吃了大亏或许能记一段, 永远记住就不太敢指望了, 如果你觉得自己在理那就按规矩来, 该上庭就上庭, 有些人不给他点教训他不知道咋回事. -ssi(文文); 2002-12-4 (#893252@0)
    • 看不懂，事情的头在哪？ -silverwater(没正事 准备ing出租G.); 2002-12-4 (#893278@0)
    • 我的英文肯定不行，可现在我又开始怀疑自己的中文阅读能力了 :-( -lmx(流氓兔); 2002-12-4 (#893338@0)
      • 我读不大懂可能恰恰是因为我的的英文不好。:D -rockywei(落基山); 2002-12-4 (#893477@0)
    • 事情该怎么做就怎么做，和同胞有什么关系吗？如果在国内，所有的人都是同胞，不是该怎么竞争就怎么竞争？有些事情就事论事就好，似乎没有必要考虑其他的因素。：） -sweetsmile(巧笑嫣然); 2002-12-4 (#893344@0)
      • Thank you for your support.But they already said they had shown 30 perporty at the same time when I serviced my clients,and never knew that I already showed this perporty first. -yihan(mimi); 2002-12-4 {5311} (#894084@0)
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛But my clients told me on the phone they already visited this one with me ,even my name,but they said no problem,they still could buy with them.That is a big and stupid lie--If I sue them ,my lawyer will be very easy to get the proof to verify this story not be the truth unless the buyers will co-operate with them,that will be a big bad action in Canada--rude the loyalty to be witnessis not fact.,because all the brokers will keep all the showing record.It's eay to find a problem there.But the buyer couples' have their own problem about the mortgage issue.
        actually they got that skillfully not by the right way.Even in this case they
        did sth. really hurt me,but I still treat them as a kind of friends did sth. wrong just by misunderstanding leading.I do not like put them in trouble in the future.Actually I can not understand why they jumped me at the very end time.They told me because their landlord persuded their much to make them believe hey will have the best agent in the world.Actually
        even after I--(myself) brought my own house thouh my agent,he also told me if I can introduce sb. to be his client,he will give me some "candys".That is a public secret.But unfortunately after I viewed the offer,they are not be protected by their new top #1 agents at all--the last one they missed is South exposure,this one is North,no sunshine in winter at all,and that basement is much bigger than this one,they wanted to build two rooms there,so this is important to them,and all the deco taste is lousier than the last one.The yard is also smaller and not beautiful like the last one.
        And this one is power of sale,the bank does not warranty any chattles--like stove,ice-box ect. 's fate in the future.And the male buyer also complained they waivered all the conditions when they faxed the offer to sell's broker without telling him--including the mortgage and status certificate,that made them scared for a long time.Because they really have no good income at all,even the down-payment is out of Canada,how they sure they would get the mortgage
        or not,if not, they would lose all the deposit.Other side,I always made 2-3 feed back offer for my client to get a better price,they really thank for my effort to save their money they already want to put in.But the difference
        price room between south and north is just $2000,because they were persuded to take the sign-back offer right way!Nobody had bargained the price for them at all!That is power of sale,and not a multi-offer presetation ,is just 2 days in market ,less chance for other offer coming in. Maybe someone just perfer close their deal ASAP for themselve.sign...You know during the meeting ,they are so interesting,seems I need they teached me how to be a agent,how great legal system in Canada--can put me in Jail for my visit to his clients' home--ha!Actually the male one is just a year earlier than me in this company -and -I first read the book about real estate agent in USA when I was 18,I brought a house 2 years ago,I done a quite good number deals this year.I'm confident not worse than them,but really not "skillful" like them.Because two years ago economic situation is much better and property price is much lower,and no so many madanrin-speaking sales person.,also they work hard and more"skillful",give them
        a good step to being a rich agent--I do not believe money can buy all the poeple,I can not take their $ 500 for their arrogant ,they said they have all the right to claim 100% commission,but for " humanism",they can give me this money for buying milk for my kids!--tThey are so nice--donate some milk to me!How do you react before such an interesting couple--even though the buyer couple's mouth --they get too much for just 2 time showing--one is making the offer,another is the last showing before closing.From the same kind of case,they should give back all the commission to me,and their licences will be suspended. for sure.I gave them a chance just claim 50% commission for the peace,after all I have
        lot of things more healthy and fun to do than going to the court.But now where will go from here?First thing is I can not forgive their rude.They really kill my living's quality these days.When I attended the meeting,I still dreaming maybe we can be friends after I get back my part commission,
        Now I totally know some kind of people can not be treated as your friends
        for ever.They really make me mad!
        Ok,this is a total story.I have been here for 2 years,most time just reading,because of my poor express ability,now I will be back,and let this talktive mouth close.I still perfer enjoy the good time in reality instead of the net.My husband is already very patient with me and always stands by me --crying and smiling,even he does not react like this ,he always prefers I can forget this caseASAP, be happy all the time.It's enough for all my life,right?I should go back to his style--be quiet and nice. Enjoy the life provide us the best gifts--I really can put time to study the stock to follow the nortel's luck,right?--Hope not kill your time and
        make you feel boring.My english is more lousy ,right?Because I have to change a computer for my husband want to use anothe one to do his project.It is not a English Show--heihei!God bless you,good luck,everyone here!更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • You really got a long story here, and not easy to understand. I believe that the competition is always cruel in this way or that. Since you did right in this case, you should stand out for your own good. -linmeimei(林妹妹㊣CFO); 2002-12-4 {195} (#894097@0)
          No need to panic. After all these are over, treat them as transparent.

          I failed to contact you because they need your first name or last name to get through which I have no idea at all. :-((((
    • 我哪个经纪都不认识, 朋友们买房的不少, 有的本身和经纪就是朋友, 有的是介绍的. 但或多或少, 都有不满意的地方, 因为地产买卖实在是学问很深的事 -ping(半拍斋主); 2002-12-4 {411} (#893460@0)
      即便是你的经纪时时都为你的利益着想, 可能由於经验的不足而留下遗憾.
      都是朋友, 有时就算了. 我觉得反正我哪个经纪都不认识, 索性就自己来担这个责任吧, 於是自己开始考地产经纪的执照. 还没有考完呢, 已经觉得这里的确是有很深的学问. 要掌握的东西的确很多. 有些不仅仅是凭一腔热血就可以的. 作经纪是靠你的PERAONALITY吃饭的, 同时也应该在交易中保护客户的利益. 同行之间的竞争之惨烈是难免的, 想开点吧. 希望有时间, 多多想向你请教.

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