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You stay on two conditions: 1. as you said that you can learn/practice to accumulate your professional knowledge and skills. 2. someone there will provide good reference if you find another job.

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You should definitely keep looking for another job while working as a volunteer there. As your skills enhanced and time last, you will find a job for sure. But before anybody hires you, they will ask you to provide a reference. You need a strong recommendation from current company to help you. He doesn't have to be a boss. A colleague will do as along as he knows what you can do and have good impression on your personality. You need at least A good friend there. Work hard and try to be socialized with people around you. Look luck.

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工作学习 / 事业与工作 / 我是否该继续做co-op？ -wymond(wymond); 2002-10-27 {1247} (#821217@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛我去年底在参加了一个co-op的课程，今年7月，学校帮我找到一家公司做co-op----网络管理。
具我观察，这家公司有10来号人，名曰IT toatal solution，但主要做猎头业务，同时到处找技术项目做（似乎没见到有在做的项目）。公司里除了co-op没有专门的技术人员，我前面的2期co-op战友都没被雇佣；他们借做猎头的便利，经常以有工作机会为幌子，让新移民给他们做技术方案和解决技术问题。现在这个公司正计划做的市场。
我到这个月底就完成3个月co-op。但主管希望我继续工作下去，把IT security产品的安装测试演示做完。他的说法是：“你如果能精通了这项技术，找工作会容易”；“等你精通了我也好跟老板说，你懂这些，我也好跟老说板给你些什么”；“你需要耐心，我们准备送你去培训的”
我正忧郁不绝：
1。这家公司的背景和资源不象能做成功什么的样子，自然不大有我被雇佣的机会。
2。专业工作机会难找，做co-op也是积累经验和学习技术的好机会---我确实也在那里学到不少新东西
3。离开了，去打工，在回头做专业工作就不容易了
4。如果有培训机会---具他说是需要费用的培训，我该坚持下去
5。这家公司做猎头业务到处糊弄人，通常是一个电话，说有工作机会把别人招来，其实根本没有职位需求，先让来人做个技术方案。--我觉得反感。
6。长期没有收入，我觉得不塌实
7。他们的承诺，我不是很相信，给我培训和雇佣都没具体的日程。

前3个理由是我应该留下的，后4个是该拍屁股走人的。

同胞大侠们，你们还有什么理由支持我做决定呢？更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

you can still take the co-op as far as you can learn something. But only do it from 9:00-5:00. The rest of time including weekends and night should be used for your job searching. -birdswimming(feifei); 2002-10-27 {276} (#821240@0)
我知道有一些公司甚至要求co-op的人周末和晚上加班且不付分文。不要寄太高希望在这个公司得到offer, 就权当在学技术练英语好了。同时坚持找工作，这样白天晚上忙，肯定会很辛苦，但只有坚持一下了。

个人认为，简历上没有空白（即有工作的时候找工作）在找工作时是有一些优势的。

good luck!

是啊。昨天还回去加班了。那里一堆垃圾电脑，还要装这装那，有时真想撒手不管了。英语倒确实有点进步的。谢谢你的意见。 -wymond(wymond); 2002-10-27 (#821355@0)
“简历上没有空白（即有工作的时候找工作）在找工作时是有一些优势的”--强烈同意！ -mikesxf(o_O); 2002-10-28 (#822068@0)

今天一连看到几个类似的贴子，都是说有些人利用我们的找工心切，明摆着taking advantage。大家其实心里都明白是怎么回事，无奈工作真的难找，对这种应拿大耳光扇的jerks也只好忍声呑气。这些人挣了钱夜里也该睡不好吧。 -ajyca(Annie); 2002-10-27 (#821291@0)

可能还睡的更香,NND -gugu(GuGu); 2002-10-27 (#821375@0)

我可是睡觉都想着技术问题。有时想想，还不如去做labor工，累完了倒头就睡，什么都不用烦，一样过的满舒服。现在没收入还睡不好-----真tnnd! -wymond(wymond); 2002-10-27 (#821387@0)

严重同意！ -henhen(哼哼~~,找工ing~~~~); 2002-10-27 (#821401@0)

我的经验,仅供参考. -mikesxf(o_O); 2002-10-28 {439} (#822055@0)
我也有过类似的经历，不过公司是真正做软件的公司。我的CO-OP结束后，做了几个月的短期CONTRACT。后来由于公司不景气，没法做下去了。老板还希望我继续留在公司等待机会，也说了好多特有前景的项目。
我当时觉得就这么离开太可惜，但是不可能做一辈子的义工。我是这么和老板谈的：我回来公司上班做项目，但是我要开始找工作，所以可能不会天天来；请老板做我的REFERENCE。老板非常理解，主动说给我写一封推荐信，在信里把我做的项目夸了一通。2月后，我找到了另一份工作。

补充： -mikesxf(o_O); 2002-10-28 {275} (#822065@0)
1 我认为“骑驴找驴”要比没有强，好象是心理因素吧，你有工作而跳槽，他们觉得你厉害，没有工作在找，他们就不那么感兴趣了。
2 简历上不要说是CO-OP或VOLUNTEER，最好和雇主达成共识，说是几个月的CONTRACT。我从中受益匪浅。
3 雇主、同时有他们自己的NETWORK，请他们向他们的关系网推荐你。

Great tips. -mssg(mssg); 2002-10-28 (#822093@0)

你好！我也做软件的，想请教哪里能找到这样的义工机会啊！ -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822785@0)

up! -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822792@0)

up! 哪位大虾知道的话，也给指点一二嘛！ -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822805@0)
up! -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822813@0)

是不是做co-op是很保密的事情啊？怎么没人出声儿啊？ -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822830@0)

最后失望的up!一下 -pants(花和尚叔叔); 2002-10-28 (#822856@0)

^ -noname(); 2002-10-28 (#822891@0)
There're tons of diffrent jsw accompany with co-op programs aroung GTA, such as job-star, skill for changes, 777 bloor,..... -mikesxf(o_O); 2002-10-28 (#823230@0)

You stay on two conditions: 1. as you said that you can learn/practice to accumulate your professional knowledge and skills. 2. someone there will provide good reference if you find another job. -1499728inc(bank); 2002-10-28 {537} (#822462@0)
You should definitely keep looking for another job while working as a volunteer there. As your skills enhanced and time last, you will find a job for sure. But before anybody hires you, they will ask you to provide a reference. You need a strong recommendation from current company to help you. He doesn't have to be a boss. A colleague will do as along as he knows what you can do and have good impression on your personality. You need at least A good friend there. Work hard and try to be socialized with people around you. Look luck.
凭我的经验,这里面试技巧和外语很重要,技术到不是最重要的,当时我就找到一家老人院做义工,就想要恶补英语,做了半年,全天候的,有空周末也去,结果如愿以偿. 供参考! -miniboat(_); 2002-10-31 (#828545@0)

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You stay on two conditions: 1. as you said that you can learn/practice to accumulate your professional knowledge and skills. 2. someone there will provide good reference if you find another job.

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