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ahhf2002(hottie)

我在半政府的单位已工作一年半(PERMANANT POSITON)。工资很满意。感觉工作表现和TEAM 的关系还行。但自觉语言(读、写、听、说)较差和最近单位裁人让我有很大的危机感。担心那日被裁没有北美教育背景再找会困难，而就我所知，只要我能拿到多大的PHD，工资会增加而且永不担心会失去工作，还有可能到STATES 狰美刀呢。因此还想读多大的PHD学位(读MS毕业也拿不到我现在的工资)，有FULL TIME 和 FLEX TIME 两种。FULL TIME 的奖学金不到我现在工资的一半，所以我不想这种选择。读FLEX TIME 则至少要上两年的FULL TIME 课程(两年后较为FLEXIBLE，想想在北美PHD多么艰难，一般至少4年多则6年FULL TIME)，又担心单位不同意，所以至今没有和BOSS商量。但还有2个月申请结止。请各位帮我参考：1、维持现状，做好本职工作，在工作中提高英语；2、读一PART TIME MS(我已有中国的MASTER)；3、读一PART TIME DIPLOMA；4、辞职读FULL TIME PHD 以利长远发展。请各位给出意见。

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关键看你年龄多大，如果小，可以考虑读书，如果超过３０，劝你还是挣钱．good luck -semaphore(semaphore); 2002-10-22 (#812236@0)

我已40。但到65还有LONG TIME。这很重要吗？ -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-22 (#812247@0)

晕倒!你这年龄正是挣钱的大好时机,千万别放弃,就算要念也等人家开你再说 -semaphore(semaphore); 2002-10-22 (#812295@0)

我同意. 读书的终极目的就是工作,决不是学位. 没工作才读书呢... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-23 (#812848@0)

听你LD的意见啰。 -lazycat(沧海一笑); 2002-10-22 (#812266@0)

我的LD没有太多的远见，只希望永远高工资而且永不失去工作。 -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-22 (#812273@0)

兄弟，你自己想想有可能吗？ -ilovewind(wind); 2002-10-22 (#812281@0)

LD是什么意思? -semaphore(semaphore); 2002-10-22 (#812297@0)

“只要我能拿到多大的PHD，工资会增加而且永不担心会失去工作”？从哪里听来的？当真？怎么听着这么耳熟？ -sadboy(sadboy); 2002-10-22 (#812282@0)

有一个帖子，让大家续“不得不说的。。。”里听过，是吧。呵呵。 -ilovewind(wind); 2002-10-22 (#812285@0)

就我的专业而言，工资会比我现在高。“永不担心失去工作”指失去也容易再找到。 -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-22 (#812300@0)

FULL TIME 的奖学金不到我现在工资的一半 - 猜想您现在做的不是IT其他一些热门专业. PHD未必容易找工作(POSTDOC除外). 但如果一旦能找到FACULTY的工作则此生基本有着落了. -guest3(guest); 2002-10-22 (#812365@0)

基本同意,可是奖学金不用上税... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-22 (#812381@0)

NO, FIRST $3000 NO TAX, REST INCOME. -lanyi(蓝衣DX); 2002-10-23 (#812906@0)

but i didnt pay anything -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-23 (#813296@0)

很正确，不是热门专业。市场需求的人不多，但有经验懂得人也不多----医学统计。就我所知，在北美还没听说WITH THIS PHD 找不到工作的(至少在中国人中)。我可不想作FACULTY工作，我的同学在UT做 -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-22 {27} (#812411@0)
ASSISTANT PROFESSOR忙死了。

是好专业,目前来讲前途无忧.可是4-6年变数太大,而又是你年富力强的4-6年... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-23 (#812604@0)
Who is your classmate? I'm studying in Uof T now. -bigsquirrel(小松鼠); 2002-10-23 (#812737@0)
Wow, bio-statistics, lucky guy, good profession. -jeffrey815(Smartiecat); 2002-10-23 (#813226@0)
这个专业的master需求量大,PHD不知道(一般硕士能找到工作的专业读PHD的人就少了,可能竞争也小了).我觉得您就在做好本职工作的同时学一些新本领,bioinformatics, database, programming, etc. -guest3(guest); 2002-10-23 (#813469@0)

I don't think so... If your are majoring in statistics, and you spend too much time on bioinformatics and programming, it's not that useful... Since a company won't hire you to do programming and -jeffrey815(Smartiecat); 2002-10-23 {109} (#813472@0)
you don't need that much programming in statistics. Not every profession need to know so many programming...

but he has got a job. Biometry is a interdiscipline depends heavily on database technology. I know quite a few biometry labs hire CS students. Not much programming work, but you have to know how to deal with it. -guest3(guest); 2002-10-23 (#813479@0)

His profession is biostatistics. UT doesn't have biometry program, only biostatistics. A statistians need to dig deep into his field, not learning other stuffs like CS, not useful at all.... -jeffrey815(Smartiecat); 2002-10-23 (#813493@0)

Most US medical schools has this majoy. ------------But I am an out-doorer, who only wants to give some suggestions. I have a few friends who have master degrees in this major - in USA. -guest3(guest); 2002-10-23 (#813527@0)

The problem is that his field is not biometry. It's biostatistics. It's not the same. He already indicated his friend is working for UT and he want to get phd from UT and UT only has biostatistics. -jeffrey815(Smartiecat); 2002-10-23 (#813542@0)

我决不同意有了PHD就一定有工作永不失业还工资高高的看法...如果你能找到工作, PHD工资一定相对高,职位也高(与经验背景相似的Master比)...可我认识的人怎么都哭着喊着PHD不好找工作呢... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-22 (#812375@0)

PHD好不好找工作和专业，研究方向，语言关系很大。不能简单说好或是不好。 -lazybones(lazy); 2002-10-23 (#812774@0)

但是我觉得master比PhD好找工作是一定的,起薪就不一样... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-23 (#812839@0)

首先要在同专业，类似的学校里才有的比较。 -lazybones(lazy); 2002-10-23 (#812841@0)

是啊,就是同专业的说... -midnightblues(努力做个傻女人); 2002-10-23 (#812843@0)

你的现状就让我等羡慕得要死，要我说还是选择1吧！另外，不知道在这边人读了PHD会不会变傻... -liding_wang(无坚不摧大砍刀); 2002-10-22 (#812428@0)

兄弟，没有北美的教育背景心里没底呢。 -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-22 (#812444@0)

3 好点。进可功，退可守。说不定刚被LAID OFF 时，您恰好PHD毕业！GOOD LUCK。 -zyl_prc(George); 2002-10-23 (#812602@0)

你将来想作FACULTY或是从事R&D吗? -starinfo(乘风); 2002-10-23 (#812924@0)

nod, part time is better. but you must have full time study in the first year? are you sure? why part time is just diploma ? why just ony UT? YU or MCmaster? what you major in? i have samiliar idea. -etol(秋林㊣李道斯); 2002-10-23 (#812945@0)

感觉有个好工作没必要去读书,工作经验比学历有用,特别是本地工作经验.没看出来你在干什么专业的工作. -guest1(guest); 2002-10-23 (#813215@0)

不要再做梦了。不管哪家行业，如果现在已经会LAYOFF一个MASTER，以后也肯定会LAYOFF一个PHD，很多情况下LAYOFF PHD还更快，谁让他工资高呢。即使作了DIRECTOR/CIO，也有不少被炒鱿鱼。 -sadboy(sadboy); 2002-10-23 (#813234@0)

Forget it! -ding_ding(丁_丁); 2002-10-23 {303} (#813251@0)

1: It's hard to apply for graduate study.
2: You will have a long time to get your PHD, 3 year Master than 3-5 year PHD. Most university can't accept you as a Phd student if you don't have master degree in North America.
3. After you got you Phd, then you have less choice and maybe less opptunity.

和你有相似的情况, 同样的忧郁. 现在仍然没有找到好办法. 读parttime PhD 不现实, 我看到西人都坚持不了, 7-8 年至少. -dna(protein); 2002-10-23 {400} (#813285@0)

做faulty 也没那么容易, 你先得干几年的postdoc, 完了后只有10% 的人可以找到faulty的位置, 很多人就在postdoc的位置上晃荡, 即使有了faulty的位置, 也是有很大的压力. 如果你在一个位置上工作了7-8年, 你还当心找不到工作? 你的收入也不见的比刚进去的PhD低, 如果你想回国好吹牛, 另当别论. 有一个北美的学历当然好, 但是我们已不是20几岁的人了, 而且这儿PhD的学位不是想国内那样轻而易举地混到. 有得必有失, 在这没有便宜好占.

刚上来，感谢各位的意见。 -ahhf2002(hottie); 2002-10-23 (#814135@0)

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