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@Edmonton

You are incredibly ignorant!

guest:
Everybody has right to respect himself in some way, if you don't respect yourself or treasure your own credit, don't blame others.
Why you have to rely on other people? Why you cannot success independently? Why you have so many excuses for being cheater? I have a friend who has been a programmer ever since 14 years old, but he still went to university to obtain his bachelor degree in CS. There could be hundreds of reasons for your friend, who looks good from your own eyes, not to get a job yet. I know YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT PLEASE, DON'T DESTROY REPUTATION OF CHINESE. What a shame.
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  • 工作学习 / 求学深造 / Don't Do What You Shouldn't Do -guest:; 2000-7-31 {27608} (#4729@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛发信人: viceroy (Danny), 信区: Canada
    标 题: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Nov 5 16:20:10 1999), 站内信件

    现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    使用了XXX，
    要考虑退路了。

    --

    We hold these truths to be self-evident
    that all men are created unequal.

    ※ 修改:．viceroy 于 Nov 5 16:21:02 修改本文．[FROM: 209.112.8.59]
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 209.112.8.59]
    发信人: linker (七点钟), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Nov 5 16:53:07 1999), 站内信件


    hmmm..how do u know this??
    Are you from waterloo?
    I know this guy, he graduated from a famous university of china.
    Now he should be in the states.
    All guys here from that university want to go to the states.

    【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : 使用了XXX，
    : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 209.148.132.245]
    发信人: rote (没有), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Nov 5 17:33:29 1999), 站内信件

    怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : 使用了XXX，
    : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 132.205.2.5]
    发信人: midi (蜜笛), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Nov 5 17:34:14 1999), 站内信件

    象美帝国主义这样的东西，看样子真是藏污纳垢啊。听说李宏志就
    被美国当宝贝似的贡起来了。

    所以象我这样的不愿意同流合污的，真的很向往社会主义加拿大啊:-)


    【 在 linker (七点钟) 的大作中提到: 】
    : hmmm..how do u know this??
    : Are you from waterloo?
    : I know this guy, he graduated from a famous university of china.
    : Now he should be in the states.
    : All guys here from that university want to go to the states.
    : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : 使用了XXX，
    : : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    中性县
    吴坌镇
    皇冲街
    ---苔痕上阶绿，草色入帘青

    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 207.138.150.70]
    发信人: doom (buzz), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Nov 5 21:34:49 1999), 转信


    Both graduate school and all my bosses received
    letters to confirm my academic record and referrence
    letters!

    Faint, US univ.s seldom check this, and some one
    told me that a cooker even got full aid from Drexel U!


    【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : 使用了XXX，
    : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    **************** ^-^************************
    喜马拉雅，长城万里，辽阔的草原，绿色的森林
    大千世界，人来人往，五湖四海 ，儿女情长
    ------俺是一个不折不扣的‘土人’！！！------
    ********************************************

    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 131.202.133.208]
    发信人: buddha (tutu), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Nov 8 12:37:29 1999), 转信

    xixi,count me out

    【 在 linker (七点钟) 的大作中提到: 】
    : hmmm..how do u know this??
    : Are you from waterloo?
    : I know this guy, he graduated from a famous university of china.
    : Now he should be in the states.
    : All guys here from that university want to go to the states.
    : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : 使用了XXX，
    : : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 129.97.78.217]
    发信人: Napoleon (soso), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 10:21:59 1999), 站内信件

    Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still investigates
    you after one year's stay. What actually happened?

    It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : 怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    : 不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : 使用了XXX，
    : : 要考虑退路了。


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 129.97.34.72]
    发信人: xingjiao (xingxing), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 13:05:40 1999) WWW-POST

    Agree. I'm trying to make things clear, then everybody would be able to know

    something about protecting this kind of issues, of coure in case he/she still

    wants to take the smae risk.

    Good luck to everybody.

    【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : investigates
    : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    :
    : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    : : 不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    : : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : : 使用了XXX，
    : : : 要考虑退路了。
    :
    :


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 199.71.64.63]
    发信人: xingjiao (xingxing), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 14:25:26 1999) WWW-POST

    I just got to know that the same things used to happen in UBC too.

    There were two Chinese students both of whom applied UBC with modified
    transcripts and both were offered admission. One finally cancelled
    application
    because he/she(? don't know) applied immigration at the same time. BUT, when

    he/she attended interview in HK, he/she was asked if he/she had applied UBC
    --- the UBC
    sent letter to his/her former university for verifying the documents even
    after his/her
    cancellation, and when got to know his/her cheating UBC noticed Immigration
    office about
    it. Of course, his/her application for immigrate was rejected finally due to
    this point. Hence,
    UBC verifed another one's transcriptes then, and when got the same response
    UBC expeled
    him/her right away after his/her few monthes studying there.

    So............. it's really hard to make decision. If you still want to go on
    taking the risk, maybe the best way is to contact former school
    and see if there's any helpful thing can be done.

    Good luck.

    【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : investigates
    : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    :
    : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    : : 不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    : : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : : 使用了XXX，
    : : : 要考虑退路了。
    :
    :


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 199.71.64.251]
    发信人: jqka (jqka), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 15:11:44 1999) WWW-POST

    Tell you a fact. My univ. will investigate all your relavent materials
    several
    months before you graduate.

    【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : investigates
    : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    :
    : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : 怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    : : 不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    : : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : : 使用了XXX，
    : : : 要考虑退路了。
    :
    :


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 130.179.16.26]
    发信人: xingjiao (xingxing), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 15:25:29 1999) WWW-POST

    Would you please tell me which Univ. it is?
    Thankx.


    【 在 jqka (jqka) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Tell you a fact. My univ. will investigate all your relavent materials
    : several
    : months before you graduate.
    :
    : 【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : : investigates
    : : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    : :
    : : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : : 怎么查出来的,都读了一年了.
    : : : 不能来Canada了?学校没这个权力吧.
    : : : 【 在 viceroy (Danny) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : : : 现在的中国，假货泛滥。
    : : : : 学生申请学校都要假成绩单。
    : : : : 有一名中国青年，GRE 2200多分。
    : : : : 在WATERLOO读了一年之后，
    : : : : 被勒令退学，并且被告知今后不能再进入CANADA。
    : : : : 就是因为他的本科成绩有两门不符。
    : : : : 所以，如果有人考虑不周，
    : : : : 使用了XXX，
    : : : : 要考虑退路了。
    : :
    : :
    :
    :


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 199.71.64.251]
    发信人: Napoleon (soso), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 15:37:49 1999), 站内信件

    Never heard that before either...

    scary...
    【 在 jqka (jqka) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Tell you a fact. My univ. will investigate all your relavent materials
    : several
    : months before you graduate.
    :
    : 【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : : investigates
    : : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    : :
    : : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : :
    : :


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 129.97.34.72]
    发信人: doom (buzz--嗡嗡), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 15:38:42 1999), 转信

    Really lucky enough not do it before, although i once supposed to to
    so, my dad strongly disagreed with me, so i happened to be an honest
    boy!


    【 在 jqka (jqka) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Tell you a fact. My univ. will investigate all your relavent materials
    : several
    : months before you graduate.
    :
    : 【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : Does anyone know more details? It is horrible that the univ. still
    : : investigates
    : : you after one year's stay. What actually happened?
    : :
    : : It is a good lesson to all future applicants if we can get it clear.
    : : 【 在 rote (没有) 的大作中提到: 】
    : :
    : :


    --
    **************** ^-^************************
    喜马拉雅，长城万里，辽阔的草原，绿色的森林
    大千世界，人来人往，五湖四海 ，儿女情长
    ------俺是一个不折不扣的‘土人’！！！------
    ********************************************

    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 131.202.133.208]
    发信人: Napoleon (soso), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Fri Dec 3 18:30:37 1999), 站内信件

    A stupid question: how could you make a fake transcript?
    Don't you get all your transcripts stamped by the university?
    Or the university 'faked' for you and in a few months say
    "No, it is not from us.."? Is it possible?

    【 在 doom (buzz--嗡嗡) 的大作中提到: 】
    : Really lucky enough not do it before, although i once supposed to to
    : so, my dad strongly disagreed with me, so i happened to be an honest
    : boy!
    : 【 在 jqka (jqka) 的大作中提到: 】
    : : Tell you a fact. My univ. will investigate all your relavent materials
    : : several
    : : months before you graduate.


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 129.97.34.72]
    发信人: zeely (等故事的人), 信区: Canada
    标 题: Re: 千万不要用假成绩单
    发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Dec 4 06:10:42 1999), 站内信件


    【 在 Napoleon (soso) 的大作中提到: 】
    : A stupid question: how could you make a fake transcript?
    : Don't you get all your transcripts stamped by the university?
    : Or the university 'faked' for you and in a few months say
    : "No, it is not from us.."? Is it possible?

    94a94a
    who can tell me?


    --
    ※ 来源:．The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu．[FROM: 202.99.]更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Sigh... Also I know many Chinese guys using fake reference letters for job seeking.. It's so bad! -guest:; 2000-8-1 (#4854@0)
      • 一下来了这么多新移民都改行搞电脑，不作假连面食机会都没有，你说了也没有用。没人愿意说谎 -guest:逼良为娼; 2000-8-1 (#4855@0)
        • My friend is a Java expert, once was asked to write false reference letter for another one, he refused. He said, "I have to care my fame and future." -guest:; 2000-8-1 (#4857@0)
          • What is your point?Your friend has a job,he had to protect himself, but what about his friend do you think he can find a job without cheating? -guest:It is real; 2000-8-1 {413} (#4858@0)
            I even heard that many CS bachors who just graduated from university claimed that they had 5 years CS experience, and they found their jobs! Who can believe that a man with 5 years experience in CS will study for his bechalor degree?! One of my friend who had very good grade in university, and I think he is a good student , wrote every thing true about himself got very few response from the resume he had sent.
            • You are incredibly ignorant! -guest:; 2000-8-1 {620} (#4859@0)
              Everybody has right to respect himself in some way, if you don't respect yourself or treasure your own credit, don't blame others.
              Why you have to rely on other people? Why you cannot success independently? Why you have so many excuses for being cheater? I have a friend who has been a programmer ever since 14 years old, but he still went to university to obtain his bachelor degree in CS. There could be hundreds of reasons for your friend, who looks good from your own eyes, not to get a job yet. I know YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT PLEASE, DON'T DESTROY REPUTATION OF CHINESE. What a shame.
              • WHAT I SAID IS HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE。I know these people who claim themself have >5 years experience in CS, they are cheating! I feel sorry for this! -guest:it is real!; 2000-8-1 (#4866@0)
          • He's right. Anybody who has mind will do it too. -guest:; 2000-8-1 {213} (#4860@0)
            I just remembered once in BBS somebody, who was from no.1 university in China, complained that his female classmate didn't let him copy her homework. Of course he was blamed by his peers. Here comes another one.
        • What a nonsense. If you are confident and can do the job, why you need to cheat? DON'T BE A SILLY LOSER. -guest:; 2000-8-1 (#4861@0)
          • Do NOT argue with me.It is truth.I feel sorry for this.This is Canada! -guest:it is real; 2000-8-1 (#4867@0)
            • There's always bad things happened, hope not for Chinese. -guest:; 2000-8-1 (#4875@0)

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