本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛以前只晓得MP是民选的, 党领无权撤换,至于驱逐出党团 caucus,想当然地以为是党内事务,按党的规矩办就是了。星报关于自由党开除WRJ的疑问报道,起初看到也没留意,现在根据报道搜了一下,才知道原来这一程序也是rule of law----《加拿大议会法》, 看来对加拿大民主制度要学习的还很多。
简单地说,该法第49条说程序规定该党议员要投票四次,并且这四次投票要求被记录下来,如同议院其它投票。链接和法律相关内容附后。那么自由党这次遵循了程序吗?发言人说是的但不告诉你,因为是党的机密。但是自由党资深议员John McKay却在第一次核心会议投票后对记者表示记录投票从来没搞,理由是没必要全体成员有共识。这就引发了疑问。
这项法规对被驱逐者的有何用?因为该条款同时为开除成员设定了高门槛,目前自由党核心小组有179名成员,那么依该法则首先必须有至少36名自由党MP书面致信要求驱逐,其次在无记名投票中,赞成驱逐的票数必须不低于90。有记录的投票就为被开除者提供了程序公正的权益。
我理解之所以驱逐这事用国法而非党纪来规管,是因为实际制度中党派核心团队更接近权力核心,远非独立议员可比。如果WRJ被驱逐出党团的过程确有疑点,那么问题来了,这种党内的操作,补丁是很容易打的,难有实锤。即便有铁证,惩戒的办法是啥也不明,难不成写份儿检讨?而且启动了开除的投票,已经表明成员之间不能共事了,就算找回了程序正义,走人也是结局,不同的是你炒老板还是老板炒你
Expulsion of caucus member
49.2 A member of a caucus may only be expelled from it if
(a) the caucus chair has received a written notice signed by at least 20% of the members of the caucus requesting that the member’s membership be reviewed; and
(b) the expulsion of the member is approved by secret ballot by a majority of all caucus members.
Vote
49.8 (1) At its first meeting following a general election, the caucus of every party that has a recognized membership of 12 or more persons in the House of Commons shall conduct a separate vote among the caucus members in respect of each of the following questions:
(a) whether sections 49.2 and 49.3 are to apply in respect of the caucus;
(b) whether section 49.4 is to apply in respect of the caucus;
(c) whether subsections 49.5(1) to (3) are to apply in respect of the caucus; and
(d) whether subsection 49.5(4) and section 49.6 are to apply in respect of the caucus.
Marginal note:Senior caucus member
(2) Each vote, and any debate relating to the vote that may precede it, are to be presided over by the caucus member with the longest period of unbroken service in the House of Commons as determined by reference to the Canada Gazette.
Marginal note:Recorded vote
(3) The vote of each caucus member, in each vote, is to be recorded.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
简单地说,该法第49条说程序规定该党议员要投票四次,并且这四次投票要求被记录下来,如同议院其它投票。链接和法律相关内容附后。那么自由党这次遵循了程序吗?发言人说是的但不告诉你,因为是党的机密。但是自由党资深议员John McKay却在第一次核心会议投票后对记者表示记录投票从来没搞,理由是没必要全体成员有共识。这就引发了疑问。
这项法规对被驱逐者的有何用?因为该条款同时为开除成员设定了高门槛,目前自由党核心小组有179名成员,那么依该法则首先必须有至少36名自由党MP书面致信要求驱逐,其次在无记名投票中,赞成驱逐的票数必须不低于90。有记录的投票就为被开除者提供了程序公正的权益。
我理解之所以驱逐这事用国法而非党纪来规管,是因为实际制度中党派核心团队更接近权力核心,远非独立议员可比。如果WRJ被驱逐出党团的过程确有疑点,那么问题来了,这种党内的操作,补丁是很容易打的,难有实锤。即便有铁证,惩戒的办法是啥也不明,难不成写份儿检讨?而且启动了开除的投票,已经表明成员之间不能共事了,就算找回了程序正义,走人也是结局,不同的是你炒老板还是老板炒你
Expulsion of caucus member
49.2 A member of a caucus may only be expelled from it if
(a) the caucus chair has received a written notice signed by at least 20% of the members of the caucus requesting that the member’s membership be reviewed; and
(b) the expulsion of the member is approved by secret ballot by a majority of all caucus members.
Vote
49.8 (1) At its first meeting following a general election, the caucus of every party that has a recognized membership of 12 or more persons in the House of Commons shall conduct a separate vote among the caucus members in respect of each of the following questions:
(a) whether sections 49.2 and 49.3 are to apply in respect of the caucus;
(b) whether section 49.4 is to apply in respect of the caucus;
(c) whether subsections 49.5(1) to (3) are to apply in respect of the caucus; and
(d) whether subsection 49.5(4) and section 49.6 are to apply in respect of the caucus.
Marginal note:Senior caucus member
(2) Each vote, and any debate relating to the vote that may precede it, are to be presided over by the caucus member with the longest period of unbroken service in the House of Commons as determined by reference to the Canada Gazette.
Marginal note:Recorded vote
(3) The vote of each caucus member, in each vote, is to be recorded.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net