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Shelley Carroll双倍价买,公帑顿失880万!市长勃然大怒!

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛高雪莉(Shelley Carroll)双倍价买!公帑顿失880万!市长勃然大怒!
Rob Ford Mayor Livid over Toronto Hydro Building Purchase
( 715 Milner Ave, Scarborough )

“你肯定是在开国际玩笑吧? 你是在说我们的公帑$800万,就这样不翼而飞了?”市长问道。市长说从未有任何人在任何场合向他说起过这宗交易。

“You have got to be kidding?” said the mayor. “Did you say $8 million?” He said he was never notified of this deal.

由此可见!

这是一宗秘密交易!

第一、高雪莉在2011年任职多市Hydro董事会Budget Chief预算总监时,批准了在一个地产交易中,为了一个工业厂房,付出了一年后翻倍的虚高价格。这个价格扭曲惊人,闻所未闻的地产项目交易,明显有多电和卖家进行不当利益输送的嫌疑。

第二、这么一个财务监管专业知识和操守疑点重重的人物,长期担任多伦多市府预算总监,只能说明她们在多个部门已经形成盘根错节的利益集团,如此,高雪莉(Shelley Carroll)本人廉洁奉公就是一个笑话。

第三、这个2011年多市重要政治人物卷入电力利益输送丑闻,也解释了安省自由党把安电在2015年强行私有化并纵容安电在随后短短两三年中制造高出温哥华一倍的电价和安电总裁高出全国同僚八倍工资的真正动机。

第四、面对这样一宗任何正常思维的人都会觉得得出极其可疑是贪赃枉法的案件,省警、皇家骑警怎么还无动于衷呢?

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http://torontosun.com/2013/12/10/mayor-rob-ford-livid-over-toronto-hydro-building-purchase/wcm/2f82c842-e9a6-40e7-8eaa-90c6e73076e8


Mayor Rob Ford livid over Toronto Hydro building purchase

TORONTO

Is there any wonder hydro bills are going up?

At a time when politicians are warning of skyrocketing energy costs — as high as 42% in the next five years — documents show Toronto Hydro bought a building for twice the price the property had sold for a year earlier.

Documents obtained through Service Ontario show Toronto Hydro paid $16.8 million in December 2011 for a vacant 272,000-square-foot plant the utility still does not use at 715 Milner Ave.

The same property was purchased from Honda Canada Inc. for $8 million in October 2010 by an investor named Chris Hinn.

Toronto Hydro paid $8.8 million more for the six-hectare site than the price it commanded 14 months earlier.

When told of this purchase by the taxpayer-owned Toronto Hydro, Mayor Rob Ford was livid.

“You have got to be kidding?” said the mayor. “Did you say $8 million?” He said he was never notified of this deal.

Attempts to reach Hinn were unsuccessful and one of his associates declined to comment.

Outraged, Ford said he will call for a rundown of every aspect of this deal and will check with the councillors the city appointed to the hydro board — Josh Colle, Shelley Carroll and Gloria Lindsay Luby.

Lindsay Luby said she was not on the board at the time of the transaction, but will seek to clarify issues arising from the purchase.

“It is highly unusual and I will ask for more details,” she told the Toronto Sun.

Colle and Carroll did not reply to the Sun’s inquiries.

Meanwhile, Toronto Hydro spokesman Tanya Bruckmueller said the transaction was based on the property’s market value.

The building’s value was scrutinized by “two evaluators” and that part of the $16.8-million price includes its “chattels, rackings and forklifts.”

But Charles McVety, president of Canada Christian College, said those same extras were part of the sale when it was purchased from Honda Canada in 2010.

McVety said he knows because he has been interested in purchasing the building over the years. He was at one time thinking about moving his college campus to this location, which he said offered ample room for a gymnasium.

“It seems like an outrageous growth in equity,” he said of hydro’s purchase. “How would you like to make $8 million in a little more than a year?”

He said he was shocked by the price it ended up going for.

“It stinks,” he said. “To me, people having to pay this as part of their increasing hydro bill is a front-page story rather than what Rob Ford burped up today. This is the taxpayer’s money.”

Since Torontonians paid so much for this property, one obvious question is why does it remain vacant?

Bruckmueller said it could become Toronto Hydro’s headquarters in 2015.

Ford said he will ask questions about why hydro officials chose to pay such a price for the building in 2011 — only to have it sit empty.

He called the notion “crazy” and said he is surprised it was not brought to his attention.

Ford said it should have been mentioned after he asked questions in May about the education credentials of Toronto Hydro’s $935,000-a-year president and CEO Anthony Haines.

A media story had surfaced saying an Ontario Energy Board application mistakenly stated that Haines had a Bachelor of Commerce degree from the University of Lethbridge. He did not have the degree.

Haines told the Toronto Star it was a “formatting” error and was not “misleading.” Hopefully, Ford will find out whether ratepayers got zapped by the sale.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / Shelley Carroll双倍价买,公帑顿失880万!市长勃然大怒! +3
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛高雪莉(Shelley Carroll)双倍价买!公帑顿失880万!市长勃然大怒!
    Rob Ford Mayor Livid over Toronto Hydro Building Purchase
    ( 715 Milner Ave, Scarborough )

    “你肯定是在开国际玩笑吧? 你是在说我们的公帑$800万,就这样不翼而飞了?”市长问道。市长说从未有任何人在任何场合向他说起过这宗交易。

    “You have got to be kidding?” said the mayor. “Did you say $8 million?” He said he was never notified of this deal.

    由此可见!

    这是一宗秘密交易!

    第一、高雪莉在2011年任职多市Hydro董事会Budget Chief预算总监时,批准了在一个地产交易中,为了一个工业厂房,付出了一年后翻倍的虚高价格。这个价格扭曲惊人,闻所未闻的地产项目交易,明显有多电和卖家进行不当利益输送的嫌疑。

    第二、这么一个财务监管专业知识和操守疑点重重的人物,长期担任多伦多市府预算总监,只能说明她们在多个部门已经形成盘根错节的利益集团,如此,高雪莉(Shelley Carroll)本人廉洁奉公就是一个笑话。

    第三、这个2011年多市重要政治人物卷入电力利益输送丑闻,也解释了安省自由党把安电在2015年强行私有化并纵容安电在随后短短两三年中制造高出温哥华一倍的电价和安电总裁高出全国同僚八倍工资的真正动机。

    第四、面对这样一宗任何正常思维的人都会觉得得出极其可疑是贪赃枉法的案件,省警、皇家骑警怎么还无动于衷呢?

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    http://torontosun.com/2013/12/10/mayor-rob-ford-livid-over-toronto-hydro-building-purchase/wcm/2f82c842-e9a6-40e7-8eaa-90c6e73076e8


    Mayor Rob Ford livid over Toronto Hydro building purchase

    TORONTO

    Is there any wonder hydro bills are going up?

    At a time when politicians are warning of skyrocketing energy costs — as high as 42% in the next five years — documents show Toronto Hydro bought a building for twice the price the property had sold for a year earlier.

    Documents obtained through Service Ontario show Toronto Hydro paid $16.8 million in December 2011 for a vacant 272,000-square-foot plant the utility still does not use at 715 Milner Ave.

    The same property was purchased from Honda Canada Inc. for $8 million in October 2010 by an investor named Chris Hinn.

    Toronto Hydro paid $8.8 million more for the six-hectare site than the price it commanded 14 months earlier.

    When told of this purchase by the taxpayer-owned Toronto Hydro, Mayor Rob Ford was livid.

    “You have got to be kidding?” said the mayor. “Did you say $8 million?” He said he was never notified of this deal.

    Attempts to reach Hinn were unsuccessful and one of his associates declined to comment.

    Outraged, Ford said he will call for a rundown of every aspect of this deal and will check with the councillors the city appointed to the hydro board — Josh Colle, Shelley Carroll and Gloria Lindsay Luby.

    Lindsay Luby said she was not on the board at the time of the transaction, but will seek to clarify issues arising from the purchase.

    “It is highly unusual and I will ask for more details,” she told the Toronto Sun.

    Colle and Carroll did not reply to the Sun’s inquiries.

    Meanwhile, Toronto Hydro spokesman Tanya Bruckmueller said the transaction was based on the property’s market value.

    The building’s value was scrutinized by “two evaluators” and that part of the $16.8-million price includes its “chattels, rackings and forklifts.”

    But Charles McVety, president of Canada Christian College, said those same extras were part of the sale when it was purchased from Honda Canada in 2010.

    McVety said he knows because he has been interested in purchasing the building over the years. He was at one time thinking about moving his college campus to this location, which he said offered ample room for a gymnasium.

    “It seems like an outrageous growth in equity,” he said of hydro’s purchase. “How would you like to make $8 million in a little more than a year?”

    He said he was shocked by the price it ended up going for.

    “It stinks,” he said. “To me, people having to pay this as part of their increasing hydro bill is a front-page story rather than what Rob Ford burped up today. This is the taxpayer’s money.”

    Since Torontonians paid so much for this property, one obvious question is why does it remain vacant?

    Bruckmueller said it could become Toronto Hydro’s headquarters in 2015.

    Ford said he will ask questions about why hydro officials chose to pay such a price for the building in 2011 — only to have it sit empty.

    He called the notion “crazy” and said he is surprised it was not brought to his attention.

    Ford said it should have been mentioned after he asked questions in May about the education credentials of Toronto Hydro’s $935,000-a-year president and CEO Anthony Haines.

    A media story had surfaced saying an Ontario Energy Board application mistakenly stated that Haines had a Bachelor of Commerce degree from the University of Lethbridge. He did not have the degree.

    Haines told the Toronto Star it was a “formatting” error and was not “misleading.” Hopefully, Ford will find out whether ratepayers got zapped by the sale.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 多伦多电力公司和安省电力公司是什么关系?
      • 这个显然是自肥的案子,而这个人又是自由党候选人。那个华人是个白手套而已。这么简单的事情,如果自由党还不费掉Shelley Carroll,只能说这十个贪污党 +2
        • “显然”吗?福特市长是瞎子?
          • “You have got to be kidding?” said the mayor. “Did you say $8 million?” He said he was never notified of this deal.
            • 是不知道还是没注意?
      • H1 sells the power to Toronto Hydro...
        • 也就是是有业务往来,但没有隶属关系。那么这件事跟安省自由党又有毛关系?
          • 当事人难道不是自由党的候选人? +1
            • 难道“作案”时不是福特市长的手下?
              • 议员是市长的手下?
                • the councillors the city appointed to the hydro board,所以市长对她这一任命没有话语权?
                  • 当然没有
                    • 这我才疏学浅了,谢谢。
                      • 逗你玩,别当真。
    • 旧事重提的目的就是以莫须有的罪名搞掉高雪梨而已。政治的肮脏,可见一斑。 +1
      • 任何有脑子的人都不会认为这交易正常。当了婊子还要立牌坊好处都要吃到才是自由党的特色 +4
        • 这件事,就算是真的,也是福特任内辖内发生的,要么就是他疏忽,要么就是他傻到被下面人卖了都不知道。
          • 多伦多是国际大都市啊!底下的电力公司的一宗买卖,又被贪污腐败分子把持的话,多伦多市长怎么可能管得过来? +1
            • 多伦多市长太难了,比省长和总理难做多了。
              • John Tory 等你帮着安置难民呢,一展身手的时候到了。 +1
                • 我不care,他不是我的市长。
                  • 嗯。
      • 苍蝇不叮无缝的蛋 +1
        • 是蛋可恶还是苍蝇讨厌?
          • We will not forget when LIBERAL @ShelleyCarroll candidate of #DonValleyNorth As @TorontoHydro director approved secret deal,
            paid $16.8M for property worth $8M! Now this shameless crook is seeking "ELECTED"!
            Whoever supports this woman
            is willing to look past her criminality for the sake of party loyalty!
            This lady made ur hydro rates skyrocket!
            Disgraceful now she is holding BBQ's for ur support!
            Get lost!
            • 赌咒发誓,我真实服气这样的文宣。
              • 我服气你
                • 你翻译一下上面那段英文,能卒读吗?
                  • 很口语化
            • 翻译一下,探长请指正。
              花1680万买了个800万的产业,现在这个无耻的蟑螂想“当选”?
              谁支持这个女人
              就是出于对党的忠诚而无视她的罪行!
              这女士让你们的电费飙升!
              多么无耻现在她还要用一顿烧烤来争取你们的支持!
              滚蛋!
      • 旧事重提,LOL,婴儿党真是后继无人了,这么恶迹斑斑的人竟然重出江湖,可气的还有人替它狡辩,脸皮之厚,PB和阿三兄弟只能自叹。 +2
        • 我其实没义务也没兴趣为这个第一次听说的人辩护,不过觉得这事蹊跷,才关注了一下。这件事建议彻查,不信查不出福特市长当年的渎职罪。 +1
          • 很好!谢谢您的建议:彻查高雪莉! +2
            • 出发点就是错的,如果觉得这件事可疑,当然要调查这件事,你针对一个人进行调查,不觉得太丑恶吗?
              • https://twitter.com/shelleycarroll/status/997085575894122496
                • 有问题吗?
    • 高雪莉(Shelley Carroll)电力$1680万买仅值$800万秘密交易715 Milner Ave!
      • This scandal hit the news in 2013, yet Liberals turned a blind eye. SHAME! @ShelleyCarroll, @OntLiberal candidate in #DonValleyNorth, ripping $8.8M off @TorontoHydro via secret deal! #CorruptCarroll #Corruption #onpoli #ONelxn #VotePC @fordnation #PCPO
        • 这屎盆子也能扣到自由党头上,我就请问当时的市长做啥了?
          • 市长说他啥不知道。这是看来不用他批,在他的责任范围是件鸡毛蒜皮的事。
            • 震惊以后呢?开除了几个人?抓了几个贪污犯或者渎职罪犯?
              • 福特回家吸个毒,心情便大好了。
      • 高雪莉丑闻: 2244446 ONTARIO INC.在 2010年11月30日以市场价800万买入715 Milner Ave没做任何装修或升级,第二年2011年12月20日,高雪莉 主掌TORONTO HYDRO的预算委员会 批准以 $16,800,000 秘密买入并交割。$880万加币税银,就这样化为乌有! +1
        • 才注意措辞,“秘密买入”,你们这些人真是有一套。
          • 各个微信群都轰曝了!高雪莉,在华人圈就是过街老鼠。很多专业人士都去搜了没有发现有过MLS的公开发售,是一宗不公开的、私下交易,并且在市政没有提及任何讨论就交割了!秘密不秘密? +1
            • 朋友圈转疯了...。谁说买卖地产一定要通过MLS了?你怎么知道市政没有提及以及讨论了?如果确实是隐瞒市政进行的违法操作,事发后进行什么处罚了?
              • 你洗地失败了!google英文: SECRET DEAL 和 Shelley Carroll ! +2
                • 英文的东西就是真理!怪不得你对英语语法问题那么迷恋。
                  • 阿拉伯语才是 +1
                    • 那可能是你的标准,探长的真理是英语。
    • Shelley Carroll双倍价买?她买的?
      • 标题《Shelley Carroll双倍价买,公帑顿失880万!...》,你会看吗? 公帑。。。
        • 你这是哗众取宠,混淆责任,Shelley Carroll在这事里面的责任比福特大不了多少。她只是市府代表参与董事局,不做具体决策。
          • Budget Chief 就是具体主管的财务总监,不做决策?你洗地水平也太烂了! +2
            • 那是市府的budget chief,不是toronto hydro的。在toronto hydro她是以市议员身份进董事局,且不是主管董事。
              • 抵赖不了啦!查了!结果就是:Shelley Carroll sits in Toronto Hydro Board as Budget Chief! +1
                • 查哪里了?
                • 我很无聊,查了这公司2011年的年报,没有类似职务的说明。此人一直担任董事到2014年底,中间还经过了一次续任,也说明2013年的这篇报道没对她造成任何影响。
                  • 加拿大的调查,太缓慢了。
                    • 在查吗?
    • 自由党里面贪污腐败的人才比较多。 +4
      • 主持这场交易的很可能是保守党,卖家hinn是犹太名,犹太人一向是保守党的金主。至于其他人,都是被蒙蔽的,从福特开始就是渎职。 +1
        • 这样的话安省前省长应该已经进监狱了
        • 哎呀,不是亚裔吗?这脑洞开的。。堪比克星呀,自粉奇思妙想,大展其才
          • 唉,文化水平低啊。太多这样的了
          • 你是选择性地阅读啊,我看到这个姓,第一反应是中国人,后来查新闻,看到叫这个名字的人的照片,感觉像南亚裔。。。对了南亚裔也是亚裔。
            • 难怪自粉经常语无伦次,原来都像你一样靠第一反应发帖,都不带动脑子的。
              • 我脑子不够用,不过比起你肯定是绰绰有余的。这显而易见。
                • 不过,急的总是你啊。
                  • 大姐,急不急跟脑子大小没关系。
                    • 急了就开始胡言乱语啊。
                      • 什么叫胡言乱语?把时间顺序看颠倒了算吗?根据掌握的资料进行合理推断算吗?
                        • 这就是你的推断:Hinn是南亚裔?
                          • 看照片的印象。就算看错了又怎么,你都做什么了?
                            • 算你赢了。
                            • 你看前多伦多市长拉士民像不像南亚裔? +1
            • 你看到谁?我帮你查查他祖宗。
              • Chris Hinn
                • 照片呢?
                  • 搜啊大哥!
                    • 我没你这么有闲。
                      • 保守党没急,你们自由党哥俩先吵起来啦
                        • 一对逗比
                    • 没文化加上色盲的结果
    • 无论如何,当时board里的人都脱不了干系的。 +3
    • 这么大一笔交易不可能一个是一个小小budget chef可以批准和签买卖合同。稍微有点常识好不好。
      • chef 当然没权力,可是 Budget Chief 预算总监呀!那就不同啦。
        • Budget chief, 顾名思义就是管预算的。这种assets acquisition,这个职位的人肯定说了不算。
    • Shelley Carroll wasted $8M from suspicious Toronto Hydro deal. But if you think she doesn't care about money, THINK AGAIN!. She just doesn't care TAXPAYER's money. +1